Very nice job on Hap Lite lte, but I wish I could say the same on SXTR&FG621-EA, No Arm and 128mb nand.Read our latest newsletter and learn more about:
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It is barely enough. The device should have some slack, since one thing Mikrotik excels at is useful life. AND every device is supported at least five years after discontinued. This is quite something on the current market - and to be applauded - but also means that current hardware will probably be running RoS 10 years from now. Some extra space would be good.hAP ac2, which is ARM 32, just like CRS310-8G+2S+IN, uses something like 14,5MB (with switch-like config applied) of storage when running v7.8 (and I guess recent versions will be close to that). So 32MB is (currently!) sufficient to partition it to two halves ... if ROS uses RAMdisk to download upgrade packages.
Trying to keep it small is always a GoodThing®, and I find it impressive how much RoS does using so little space. However, with new capabilities and drivers, can we be sure that 8 years from now it will fit? Is it really that expensive to go from 32MB to 64MB? Mikrotik buys these flash modules by the tens of thousands - can't cost that much. What impact would it have on the final unit cost? From US$ 219,00 to US$ 222,00?In v7 we are trying to slim it down, it should become smaller
I would love to see a PoE+ version of the CRS310-8G+2S+IN =)
https://mikrotik.com/product/sxt_lte6_2023SXT doesn’t have gain information on the product page. The inclusion of B28 is nice, but I suspect the unit still uses the original antennas which are next to useless for B28.
Still only have 100Mbps Ethernet ports.
That hopefully means they are focusing on bugfixing the existing products.Well took forever to see this Newsletter just to release an LTE router and 8 port switch. From May to September.
I don't want it if they are going to do this NO!I would buy at least two of the CRS310-8P+2S+IN if those were released.
100% agree. I'd be good just ~15W 802.11af, that solve a lot of problem. I'd take 30W 802.3at... But agree once you get to needing >30W, I'm of your opinion...an injector often a better plan.So yeah, let's ask for mostly 'at level ports because the price will be better.
What's the cost difference between 2.5GbE and 10GbE ports (with optional PoE)? I'd really like to see SOHO equipment moving to minimum 10GbE for future-proofing.Can you guys clarify the use case of 2.5G ports but with PoE output? I thought this kind of switch was great for high end PC's, not for plugging in more routers?
CPU specs worry me about using this as a layer 3 access switch (or perhaps distribution switch in smaller networks) for running a few thousand/ten thousand BGP routes/OSPF and in future if MikroTik supports VXLAN with EVPN or MPLS/EVPN.We already have this https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm
Should we need to worry about this type of CPU spec on your switches for route computation and EVPN?We already have this https://mikrotik.com/product/crs312_4c_8xg_rm
Yes I'm building out my Home Network still which will be 2.5G forward of the Router, this switch is perfect for me BUT, I would like to be able to plug-inCan you guys clarify the use case of 2.5G ports but with PoE output? I thought this kind of switch was great for high end PC's, not for plugging in more routers?
Lots of new wireless gear is supporting 2.5G poe input. tachyon, ubiqiuti Wave Micro, cambium cnwave. The lack of 2.5G ports has really hindered our mikrotik deployments. We love the netpower 16p and use that as the base for tons of pops w/ it's hardware forwarding but have had to use different gear for mmwave micro-pops.Can you guys clarify the use case of 2.5G ports but with PoE output? I thought this kind of switch was great for high end PC's, not for plugging in more routers?
I have access points that are ax 4x4 that have both 1g and 2.5g ports that allow for poe in on both ports. I only have one drop run to each access point. These are at/af compatible but I have seen 6e access points that need bt.Can you guys clarify the use case of 2.5G ports but with PoE output? I thought this kind of switch was great for high end PC's, not for plugging in more routers?
Yes more near the mark, but do you see my point.The css610 outputs more power than that. I would hope the specs would take into account that devices with 2.5 gbe ports use more power.
Access points. Indoor and outdoor.Can you guys clarify the use case of 2.5G ports but with PoE output? I thought this kind of switch was great for high end PC's, not for plugging in more routers?
That's not a mikrotik feature and I do not want mikrotik trying to push that because radios are the determining factor, switches should follow the market not try to fix the market.biggest wish, get rid of 24v PoE on consumer devices, replace it with standard 48v PoE
+1I would love to see a PoE+ version of the CRS310-8G+2S+IN =)
I'm sure 802.3 added a lot of cost/complexity 10+ years ago... is that still true? Is making "flexible" power options (24V&48V, passive&active) really that hard?
That's absolute BS. The "market" asks me almost daily why we can't power a hAP AC2 router from a standard PoE switch that powers VoIP Phones and IP Cameras. Just 2 hours ago I powered a pair of RBwAPG-60ad radios off a Fiber Store PoE Switch and a Cisco PoE switch to connect a warehouse on the other side of the road to the main building, yet the RBD52G-5HacD2HnD-TC-US router that is the access point in the warehouse office, connected to the same switch, plugged into ether1 that is even labeled PoE IN, needs to have a wall adapter because it doesn't accept standard PoE, it only takes only 24v Passive PoE.That's not a mikrotik feature and I do not want mikrotik trying to push that because radios are the determining factor, switches should follow the market not try to fix the market.biggest wish, get rid of 24v PoE on consumer devices, replace it with standard 48v PoE
I've looked at that outdoor adapter, but haven't actually used any yet. It just seems stupid that you need to buy a ~$22-$25 device to power the device, while you throw away the unused 110v wall adapter, when they could have made a router that supports the industry standard PoE input for the same price and simply not included the wall adapter.However, ubiquiti may have offered up an alternative solution already that I would love to see a mikrotik version of. The Instant AF outdoor adapter. takes standard PoE and coverts it down to 24V for their radios.
I would love to see a mikrotik outdoor af/at/be adapter to 26-27v and then a full conversion to standard PoE outputs.
Most new radios are 48v compatible, though some still want passive 48v which could be accomodated with a 'force output setting on the switch. Use the instant af style adapter for 'legacy' products.
Spend a bunch of extra money supporting 24v on a bunch of switch ports, or buy an adapter for the small number of legacy APs you want to support... Not much runs on just 24v anymore, basically just airmax at this point, everything else is 48v compatible and even if it supports 24v that can be sketchy like LTU or Wave.
I've looked at that outdoor adapter, but haven't actually used any yet. It just seems stupid that you need to buy a ~$22-$25 device to power the device, while you throw away the unused 110v wall adapter, when they could have made a router that supports the industry standard PoE input for the same price and simply not included the wall adapter.
Also, yo can only force the output setting on a switch if the switch even supports 24v passive PoE, which as far as I'm aware only MT and some UBNT switches do, to the best of my knowledge if you have any other manufacturer switch in the world, you are totally out of luck and using some type of adapter, injector, or wall plug
I would happily pay the same price and have no wall adapter included in the box if it included standard PoE support on a hAP router. For the far less common installations where a wall adapter is needed, then I will happily pay extra for one.
I would love to see a PoE+ version of the CRS310-8G+2S+IN =)
Can you guys clarify the use case of 2.5G ports but with PoE output? I thought this kind of switch was great for high end PC's, not for plugging in more routers?
Can you guys clarify the use case of 2.5G ports but with PoE output? I thought this kind of switch was great for high end PC's, not for plugging in more routers?
Another variant I'd like to see might be called a CRS310-4P-4G+-2S+ ... the application is "upscale wired home" in the 2-4 bedroom range.
So true. Boy add display & control knob to CRS328 that let you set a VLAN on the switch – lot of margin there. I know people who buy $4K+ switches ONLY because they have a display on them. Stuff like this.
For reference,Wow, that is awesome! Colored LED lights that tell you what vlan membership a port is in. Also their GUI software is top notch. But you pay for that.
There are many accesspoints with 2.5G PoE-in on the market...Can you guys clarify the use case of 2.5G ports but with PoE output? I thought this kind of switch was great for high end PC's, not for plugging in more routers?
new model is not in shops yet.All shop SXTR&FG621-EA still with the old high prices. Will there be no business with the old prices when the product code has remained the same?
…with 100M ports we can’t deploy [the SXTR]…
These days it's imposible to get near modem or cell tower maximum throughput, with many concurrent devices we're all aiming at getting roughly 10% of radio resources available at cell tower ... per connected device.I would argue that areas with such low speed demands might be better with a cheaper LTE modem and the CAT 6 and up more suited to areas with gigabit ports.
if you are on a saturated tower getting max 10%, CA isn’t going to do a whole lot ...
Mikrotik typically lists the CA modes someplace. For the FG621-EA on the hAPlite6, it's the "Brochure":Does the FG621-EA support non-contiguous intra-band carrier aggregation?
However it's not clear on the non-contiguous part!Yes, these devices support intra-band CA.
You can find out more in their brochures:
https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/hAPax ... 230832.pdf
https://i.mt.lv/cdn/product_files/SXTLTE6_200836.pdf