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Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:17 pm

I would like to see something like CCR2116-4G-12S+, even something without RJ45, just pure SFP+ with 1G management port, like old CCR2004. This is really nice piece of HW, but only 4 SFP+ isn't usable for me.
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Mon Jan 03, 2022 2:41 pm

Put a switch and do VLAN Trunking...
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Jan 04, 2022 12:39 am

Put a switch and do VLAN Trunking...
Not an option, if you need to get inter VLAN routing with 10G line speed thru FW. Due to limitations I need to disable fasttrack and CCR2004 is not able handle 10G routing in this case. To get best speed from CCR you need to utilise as much interfaces as possible, so almost every VLAN has own uplink to core router.

Edit: there is already CRS317 in place
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:33 am

CCR2116 likely won't be able of wirespeed routing between many interfaces, specially not if one is after wirespeed for single or small number of TCP connections. However, CRS317 running ROS v7 is capable of doing it if configured to use l3hw feature.
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Jan 04, 2022 1:25 pm

But if I understand correctly, you can enable l3 or firewall acceleration on CRS317, but I need l3 AND firewall.
It's pity that mikrotik is not showing in presented throughput also values without fasttrack.
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:33 pm

I'd consider the l3hw functionality as work in progress. What I understood from discussions in forum (some MT staffers contributed) is that the goal is to have firrwall and routing both hw offloaded (and at the same time). Mind that whatever is offloaded is quite similar to being fast-tracked ... neither way are packets processed by "heavy iron" firewalling and routing engines ...
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Mar 15, 2022 9:36 am

CCR2116 likely won't be able of wirespeed routing between many interfaces, specially not if one is after wirespeed for single or small number of TCP connections.

@mkx Why did you say this ?
Could you elaborate please ?
Many thanks !
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Mar 15, 2022 4:03 pm

it's a recurring topic around the forum, requesting MikroTik to made specific purpose device for their own needs

im sure MikroTik tries to follow the most needed features but is impossible to fit all scenarios

what there is is what there is

you must desing and plan around that, a proper design and configuration can adapt to changes and scales well beyond hardware limitations, not the other way
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Mar 15, 2022 6:29 pm

CCR2116 likely won't be able of wirespeed routing between many interfaces, specially not if one is after wirespeed for single or small number of TCP connections.

@mkx Why did you say this ?
At the time I wrote what I wrote, l3hw support was not there for CCR2116 ... things changed meanwhile.
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Mar 15, 2022 11:52 pm

Makes sense, you were comparing CRS317 with l3hw against CCR2116 without.
OK :)
CCR2116 seems now a better choice for routing than CRS317, which, even if it has a bigger hardware table (stores more routes, fasttracked connections etc...), will certainly run slower once hardware table is full (or in case l3hw is not used / considered at all), due to its smaller CPU...
CCR2116 should also be a better choice if ipsec is used (due to hardware accelerated encryption).
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Wed Mar 16, 2022 1:19 pm

I would like to see something like CCR2116-4G-12S+, even something without RJ45, just pure SFP+ with 1G management port, like old CCR2004. This is really nice piece of HW, but only 4 SFP+ isn't usable for me.
I agree - and sfp28 interfaces aswell :)
copper ports are useless now for this type of router IMO
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Wed Mar 16, 2022 3:58 pm

CCR2216-1G-12XS-2XQ was announced

i hope it can meet your expectations
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Fri Sep 09, 2022 12:14 am

CCR2216-1G-12XS-2XQ was announced

i hope it can meet your expectations
Not really, it's almost 3 times more expensive. Hard to invest such money to homelab.
 
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Re: Plan for CCR2116-12G-4S+ alternative?

Tue Nov 08, 2022 1:00 pm

I'm waiting for: CCR2116-12S-4S+ - 12 SFP and 4 SFP+
Only change from RJ45 to SFP

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