Community discussions

MikroTik App
 
Njumaen
Frequent Visitor
Frequent Visitor
Topic Author
Posts: 64
Joined: Wed Feb 24, 2016 8:41 pm

The Dude for 7.2 !

Tue Apr 05, 2022 11:55 pm

My RB1100AHx4 Dude Edition is very happy... ;-)

Image
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:24 am

Mine is all upgraded OK, but is not so happy.
On the remote devices I can see in the logs that it has logged into them, but it does not seem to be registering properly.
You do not have the required permissions to view the files attached to this post.
 
nescafe2002
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 866
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:46 pm
Location: Netherlands

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:58 am

aoakeley, did you upgrade your agent (server) to 7.2 as well?
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 9:59 am

aoakeley, did you upgrade your agent (server) to 7.2 as well?
Yes.
 
User avatar
rextended
Forum Guru
Forum Guru
Posts: 9479
Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:49 pm
Location: 🇮🇹, my 💔 is in 🇺🇦

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:33 pm

The remote devices are all 7.2?
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:51 pm

The remote devices are all 7.2?
No. But surely that is not a requirement?
 
User avatar
rextended
Forum Guru
Forum Guru
Posts: 9479
Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:49 pm
Location: 🇮🇹, my 💔 is in 🇺🇦

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:53 pm

You must read the changelog,
old RouterOS access are replaced on 6.4??? (do not remember) with another type of strong access, also API are changed
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:08 pm

You must read the changelog,
old RouterOS access are replaced on 6.4??? (do not remember) with another type of strong access, also API are changed
The minimum version of remote devices is 6.48.3
Most are on 6.49.5
Some are on 7.1.3
Some are on 7.2

NONE of them register properly in DUDE since the upgrade.

Are you saying that they ALL need to be on 7.2 before ANY of them will work? I don't believe that/
 
User avatar
rextended
Forum Guru
Forum Guru
Posts: 9479
Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:49 pm
Location: 🇮🇹, my 💔 is in 🇺🇦

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:15 pm

No, that no,
but you do not have specified the other version, and can be one old version on remote devices the problem.
It's all...
 
nescafe2002
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 866
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:46 pm
Location: Netherlands

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:35 pm

What is the RouterOS status of the agent device (server)?
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:38 pm

What is the RouterOS status of the agent device (server)?
RB1100AHx4 Dude Edition RouterOS 7.2
I will do some more investigation tomorrow.
 
nescafe2002
Forum Veteran
Forum Veteran
Posts: 866
Joined: Tue Aug 11, 2015 12:46 pm
Location: Netherlands

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 5:47 pm

Apparently agent "server" is the default.. so I have no clue, sorry.
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 07, 2022 6:16 pm

Apparently agent "server" is the default.. so I have no clue, sorry.
Thanks for trying. It prompted me to have another closer look at what was going on.
I found the solution.... There were some NAT and Mangle rules I had created years ago to enable The Dude to talk to some remote mikrotik devices on ports other than 8291. These had malfunctioned/broken in the upgrade to 7.2. I'll have to go back and figure out why, but once I disabled these everything started working.

Also despite @rextended stating otherwise, and as I expected, Dude 7.2 is quite happy talking to older ROS versions. Just in case anyone else was wondering.
 
gammy69er
Frequent Visitor
Frequent Visitor
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun May 18, 2014 3:01 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 28, 2022 3:16 am

Apparently agent "server" is the default.. so I have no clue, sorry.
Thanks for trying. It prompted me to have another closer look at what was going on.
I found the solution.... There were some NAT and Mangle rules I had created years ago to enable The Dude to talk to some remote mikrotik devices on ports other than 8291. These had malfunctioned/broken in the upgrade to 7.2. I'll have to go back and figure out why, but once I disabled these everything started working.

Also despite @rextended stating otherwise, and as I expected, Dude 7.2 is quite happy talking to older ROS versions. Just in case anyone else was wondering.
Good to see you got sorted. Just a couple of quick questions if you are about - get a chance to answer.
1. How Many ROS devices are you monitoring the the RouterOS service.
2. Do they all Stay "up/connected"
3. What Hardware/License Level - if you don't mind answering

Asking as we have stuck with an older version of dude and just reduced the connections of RouterOS as it was failing at the time with more than 50 connections ("RouterOS" runs on winbox port - 8291 - so suspect it's using a login/connection to do so). We run a P1 CHR which should have no such limits - but it certainly does on 6.46.6 (the version we are on, as we had things as old as 5.21 out there last time we assessed - not any more though)

any infor you can give would be great - cheers
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 28, 2022 11:35 am


Good to see you got sorted. Just a couple of quick questions if you are about - get a chance to answer.
1. How Many ROS devices are you monitoring the the RouterOS service.
2. Do they all Stay "up/connected"
3. What Hardware/License Level - if you don't mind answering

Asking as we have stuck with an older version of dude and just reduced the connections of RouterOS as it was failing at the time with more than 50 connections ("RouterOS" runs on winbox port - 8291 - so suspect it's using a login/connection to do so). We run a P1 CHR which should have no such limits - but it certainly does on 6.46.6 (the version we are on, as we had things as old as 5.21 out there last time we assessed - not any more though)

any infor you can give would be great - cheers
Hi..

About 100 devices being monitored
They all stay connected.
License Level 6
Hardware 1100AHx4DE
CPU sits at about 5%
 
User avatar
rextended
Forum Guru
Forum Guru
Posts: 9479
Joined: Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:49 pm
Location: 🇮🇹, my 💔 is in 🇺🇦

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Thu Apr 28, 2022 1:18 pm

ROS 6.48.6, near 1000 devices, same hardware, CPU fluctuating 4~7%
 
User avatar
Zetle
newbie
Posts: 29
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:41 pm

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Sun May 08, 2022 12:08 am

So I'm bit confused.
I'm currently on 6.48.4 on most of devices. Many of them are used as agents.
If upgrade The Dude Server to 7.2.x will it be able to use agent devices running on 6.48.4 ?
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Sun May 08, 2022 8:12 am

If upgrade The Dude Server to 7.2.x will it be able to use agent devices running on 6.48.4 ?
Will be fine
 
User avatar
Zetle
newbie
Posts: 29
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:41 pm

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:08 am

This night, after many issues, I've managed to upgrade my Dude Server to 7.3.1, and now all agent connections are broken with good old error: agent NameOfRemoteDevice routerOS version not same as dude servers (6.48.4 (stable)), next attempt at 20:57:24
Same on 6.49.6 devices
Any suggestions how to proceed without upgrading all agents to 7.3.1 at once and still not loosing sight on monitored services behind that agents ?
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Mon Jun 13, 2022 3:22 am

This night, after many issues, I've managed to upgrade my Dude Server to 7.3.1, and now all agent connections are broken with good old error: agent NameOfRemoteDevice routerOS version not same as dude servers (6.48.4 (stable)), next attempt at 20:57:24
Same on 6.49.6 devices
Any suggestions how to proceed without upgrading all agents to 7.3.1 at once and still not loosing sight on monitored services behind that agents ?
Not sure... all I can say is that my Dude Server running 7.2.3 is still able to communicate with older ROS devices without any problem. I will try and upgrade it to 7.3.1 one evening this week and see if anything breaks.
 
User avatar
Zetle
newbie
Posts: 29
Joined: Tue Aug 30, 2016 1:41 pm

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:33 am

It CAN connect and monitor RouterOS device directly. The problem comes with the agent devices which are not the same version.
 
aoakeley
Member Candidate
Member Candidate
Posts: 107
Joined: Mon May 21, 2012 11:45 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Mon Jun 13, 2022 8:45 am

It CAN connect and monitor RouterOS device directly. The problem comes with the agent devices which are not the same version.
I might have given you some bum advice..... I don't use Dude Agents, but I think from doing some quick reading that dude agent does need to be same version as the server. Sorry I should have read your question more carefully.
 
gammy69er
Frequent Visitor
Frequent Visitor
Posts: 63
Joined: Sun May 18, 2014 3:01 am

Re: The Dude for 7.2 !

Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:35 am

Sorry for the necrotic Post - but if anyone catches - need more info.

Cheers rextended and aoakeley for providing info - but Actually needed to know one more thing - looking back in now that I have 5 Mins.

Are you using distibuted Agents - or all to one server

I have seen in another post that Rex alludes to the fact that you should use agents exclusively - which is all fine and good - until you have too many agents.(post here - viewtopic.php?t=189025)

We seem to hit a 50 device limit for ROS connections coming in to server - we have the better part of 300 sites and upwards of 4000 devices (not all ROS) - so yeah - all our sites could do the agent thing, but there are still too many of them.

even if we just do Core monitoring for ROS (which was the case generally) - however there are too many connections coming in and we will get the same issue with agents anyway.

The only thing I could see is setting up multiple dudes to get past the apparent connection limit.

However in saying that - I have since Moved up to V7.4 for Dude and need to do some checks and tests to see that this issues aren't just gone... but there have been no mention of dude adjustments in the changelogs to suggest this has been addressed. Will have a test and see what shakes out.

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Semrush [Bot] and 3 guests